Fr. MK - I was actually thinking of using volumes of a simple 'green liquid'. It is interesting that the LD50 for ethanol is 7g/kg so that around ~560 ml of pure ethanol. I just want to show about how big that volume is, so two flasks one (10 ml grad cyl) to show that 7ml would kill half a rat and another to show the 560 (500 ml grad cyl). ---------------------------- Demo: show qty for 333gr rat vs. 170# human. .33kg : 80 kg => 1:240 ex. NaCl => 1gr:240gr CuSO4 => 0.5gr:120gr --------------------------- ref: http://www.ger.ed.ac.uk/hew/tox/table1.html Table 1. Approximate acute LD50 values for some potentially hazardous substances* Substance LD50 male(mg/kg body weight) Oral Administration Ethanol 7,000 Sodium chloride 3,000 Cupric sulphate 1,500 DDT 100 Nicotine 60 Tetrodotoxin 0.02 Dioxin (TCDD) 0.02 * Values obtained from the Merck Index, The Sigma-Aldrich Material Safety Data Sheets (Sigma-Aldrich Library of Chemical Safety Data), and Casarett and Doull's Toxicology. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TABLE 2. An example of a classification of toxicity based on acute LD50 values (Used in EC Directives on Classification, Packaging and Labelling of Chemicals) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Category LD50 Orally to Rat (mg/kg body weight) Very toxic Less than 25 Toxic From 25 to 200 Harmful From 200 to 2000 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------